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cliff. good evening. i'm richard lui. you're watching the standoff in washington, d.c. the house gop is meeting at this hour for the second time today. leadership and members are discussing how to move forward on a bill they say need to include spending cuts. house speaker john boehner and eric cantor arrived at the meeting together. but it was cantor who set off the storm earlier today just hours ago by announcing he could not support the senate bill that was approved this morning at 2:00 a.m. house democratic leader nancy pelosi attempted to put pressure on tonight. she posted this on twitter saying quote, strong majority of house democrats support the bipartisan senate bill that passed 89-8. confident it will pass and speaker boehner allows an up or down vote. and republicans like congressman jack kingston of georgia blame the senate for a hastily written bill. >> it was way past those senators' bedtime. they were blurry eyed when they were reading it. we're trying to fill in the gap wher
cliff. good evening. i'm richard lui. you're watching the standoff in washington, d.c. the house gop is meeting at this hour for the second time today. leadership and members are discussing how to move forward on a bill they say need to include spending cuts. house speaker john boehner and eric cantor arrived at the meeting together. but it was cantor who set off the storm earlier today just hours ago by announcing he could not support the senate bill that was approved this morning at 2:00 a.m....
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there were not enough votes, so that is why we are facing this fiscal cliff right now. nancy pelosi, harry reid, for six years they knew this was coming. last term of president obama, there was no budget passed. nobody is talking, the liberal media is not talking. they are hiding the bills that were passed in the house to be tabled and never brought up and never be accountable for. i hold the republicans accountable, too, because they did not step up to the mike and point the finger towards the blame. i have another question to ask. obama asked for complete congressional powers about being able to pull up and give any amount of money that he wanted, taking those powers away from the house. i think that is completely ludicrous. as far as the last caller asking out the democrats and republicans, that me see, if the democrats put a bill together and the republicans don't vote for it, they are mad at it, but if the republicans put a bill and let's say cave to the democrats, there is no bipartisan. i have never seen the democrats actually cave and take care of the fiscal cli
there were not enough votes, so that is why we are facing this fiscal cliff right now. nancy pelosi, harry reid, for six years they knew this was coming. last term of president obama, there was no budget passed. nobody is talking, the liberal media is not talking. they are hiding the bills that were passed in the house to be tabled and never brought up and never be accountable for. i hold the republicans accountable, too, because they did not step up to the mike and point the finger towards the...
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not including debt celling in the fiscal cliff deal means the battle will continue. action on immigration reform likely gets pushed off. robert in north carolina, republican line. caller: hi, happy new year. i firmly believe they have to pass this. i think we're between a rock and a hard place especially with the congress. i'm hoping and praying they will. i don't see we have a choice. maybe we can get back to some good legislation and not wait to the last minute and it will cost the republican votes when the house comes up to vote. i'm sure it will by next election. i'm hoping they will do the right thing and get this passed. host: joann on the democrat line. caller: happy new year. the republicans are always talking about cutting the deficit and i'm a democrat and i believe we should cut the deficit. however, we can cut the deficit by taxing the wealthy more and $250,000 is wealthy. they also will not consider cutting corporations loopholes or raising taxes on corporations. they will not consider cutting military even though we have gotten out of one war. if we cut
not including debt celling in the fiscal cliff deal means the battle will continue. action on immigration reform likely gets pushed off. robert in north carolina, republican line. caller: hi, happy new year. i firmly believe they have to pass this. i think we're between a rock and a hard place especially with the congress. i'm hoping and praying they will. i don't see we have a choice. maybe we can get back to some good legislation and not wait to the last minute and it will cost the republican...
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we shouldn't really call this a fiscal cliff deal. this is just the senate's bill. the senate vote 89-8 in favor the bill. it extends decade old tax cuts on income up to 400,000 for individuals, 450,000 for couples. cuts only 15 billion in spending while increasing tax revenues by $620 billion. that is a 41-1 ratio of tax increases to spending cuts. so who are the winners and losers? we'll play a little game. i will toss out some names to you, you tell me winner or loser. we'll go down the list. richard, start with you, president obama, john boehner, winner or loser? >> i think both of them are winners for different reasons. the president won. obviously showed winning an election and staying on message is a winning strategy. he got republicans to budge on this decades long notion somehow or other lifting tax rates was going to be ruin news for the economy. i think we'll see that it's not. he got a lot of other provisions clean energy, tuition credits, senator for low income people. unemployment benefits extended that were on the line. i think john boehner is actuall
we shouldn't really call this a fiscal cliff deal. this is just the senate's bill. the senate vote 89-8 in favor the bill. it extends decade old tax cuts on income up to 400,000 for individuals, 450,000 for couples. cuts only 15 billion in spending while increasing tax revenues by $620 billion. that is a 41-1 ratio of tax increases to spending cuts. so who are the winners and losers? we'll play a little game. i will toss out some names to you, you tell me winner or loser. we'll go down the...
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increases and spending cuts. >>> it's not just the fiscal cliff u-s lawmakers need to worry about this morning. there's also concern about the nation's debt ceiling. the u-s reached its legal borrowing limit of 16-point- 4 trillion dollars yesterday. the treasury department is taking measures to buy time until the end of february. they include suspending some investments in benefit fundsbut after that, the treasury will not be able to pay all of the country's bills in >>> doctors are treating secretary of state hillary clinton for a blood clot that formed in her head and they're confident she will make a full recovery. not cause a stroke, or any brain damage. the clot is located in the vein in the space between the brain and the skull behind the right ear. to help dissolve the clot, they are treating her with blood thinners. she will be released once the medication dose has been established. we will be right back. . >>> zynga has started shutting down several titles as part of a plan to cut costs at the struggling online game company. games such as petville and mafia wars 2 will no lon
increases and spending cuts. >>> it's not just the fiscal cliff u-s lawmakers need to worry about this morning. there's also concern about the nation's debt ceiling. the u-s reached its legal borrowing limit of 16-point- 4 trillion dollars yesterday. the treasury department is taking measures to buy time until the end of february. they include suspending some investments in benefit fundsbut after that, the treasury will not be able to pay all of the country's bills in >>>...
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those people realize that this so-called fiscal cliff, but there is a reason why these tax cuts camp -- come up every year. it is so they can keep debating over the american people, to allow the american people to pay super rich people's america -- their taxes. i just do not get what people do not understand that this is why it comes up every year. that is what we will keep doing. this is what they are fighting for. it is wild. sexting dollar trillion of debt is bush and obama tax cuts -- $16 trillion that is the bush tax cuts that keep coming up. the medicare plan be. that is the other is trillion dollars. we cannot rely on the american people to allow this to happen. host: a prediction of a possible vote later on today -- the a p noted in a story earlier this morning that tea party senators did approve, some of them, a couple of them, did approve this deal earlier this morning in the senate. also, the ap report in this morning that officials also decided at the last minute to use the measure to prevent a $900 pay raise for lawmakers to take effect this spring. that is something our
those people realize that this so-called fiscal cliff, but there is a reason why these tax cuts camp -- come up every year. it is so they can keep debating over the american people, to allow the american people to pay super rich people's america -- their taxes. i just do not get what people do not understand that this is why it comes up every year. that is what we will keep doing. this is what they are fighting for. it is wild. sexting dollar trillion of debt is bush and obama tax cuts -- $16...
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the senate cut a deal to solve the fiscal cliff but what are the chances of passing the house? that analysis is next. >> there is a completely separate tax hike that goes into effect today. another $1 trillion thanks to obamacare. what it means for your health and wallet. >>> "fox and friends" live from new york city 2013. >> and washington, d.c. ♪ i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. marie callender's turkey breast with stuffing is a great reason to slow down. creamy mash potatoes, homestyle gravy and 320 calories. marie callender's. it's time to savor. every signature is unique, and every fingerprint unrepeatable. at sleep number, we've always recognized the incredible diversity of human beings, and know that up there with your social security number and your phone number is another important number. your sleep number. s
the senate cut a deal to solve the fiscal cliff but what are the chances of passing the house? that analysis is next. >> there is a completely separate tax hike that goes into effect today. another $1 trillion thanks to obamacare. what it means for your health and wallet. >>> "fox and friends" live from new york city 2013. >> and washington, d.c. ♪ i gave birth to my daughter on may 18th, five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first...
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cliff. >> happy new year. >> reporter: vice president biden came to the capitol to sell the fix. he worked out with gop leader mitch mcconnell who spoke for senate republicans. >> we don't think taxes should be going up on anyone. but we all knew that if we did nothing they would be going up on everyone. >> reporter: the senate voted to reverse are today's tax hikes on 98% of americans. but to keep the higher rate, on families making over $450,000. president obama took credit for breaking 20 years of gop opposition to tax hikes. >> keep in mind, just last month, republicans in congress said they would never agree to raise tax rates on wealthiest republicans. >> reporter: only 5% said no. >> americans will wake up today to be sure that their taxes won't go up $2,200 each. >> reporter: not so fast. house speaker john boehner and his might not go along. boehner sent republicans home to celebrate the new year without the fiscal cliff. >> everybody involved should be embarrassed. >> reporter: the
cliff. >> happy new year. >> reporter: vice president biden came to the capitol to sell the fix. he worked out with gop leader mitch mcconnell who spoke for senate republicans. >> we don't think taxes should be going up on anyone. but we all knew that if we did nothing they would be going up on everyone. >> reporter: the senate voted to reverse are today's tax hikes on 98% of americans. but to keep the higher rate, on families making over $450,000. president obama took...
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but this sequester is, you know, it's a big part of the fiscal cliff. monetarily it's not quite half of it. it's worth $110 billion, and those spending cuts go into effect tonight. it's unclear if they are going to solve that part of it. >> woodruff: but todd s there, on the tax side, has there been agreement there, at least, on the senate side. because as we just reported some democrats say they don't like what they see. >> well, they don't need everybody. keep in mind, you-- what you need in the senate usually is 51 votes. we've gotten into this environment here where we assume that everything needs 60 votes. it doesn't have to be that way. you heard fromenator harkin there, he and a bunch of other senate lib rarblingts shelton white house, al franken, jay rockefeller, other, huddled in harry reid's office earlier today. i was standing outside that room when they came out. they were tight-lipped. they were grim. they went into a side meeting all their own to try and decide what to do. they weren't talking when they came out. what you are looking for t
but this sequester is, you know, it's a big part of the fiscal cliff. monetarily it's not quite half of it. it's worth $110 billion, and those spending cuts go into effect tonight. it's unclear if they are going to solve that part of it. >> woodruff: but todd s there, on the tax side, has there been agreement there, at least, on the senate side. because as we just reported some democrats say they don't like what they see. >> well, they don't need everybody. keep in mind, you-- what...
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still question lines before we get to the finish line and avert the fiscal cliff. in two months, the voice president told democrats behind closed doors, there will be a donnybrook in vintage biden speak when we talk about the mandatory spending cuts that they delayed to the end of february. >> thank you so much. we'll be back in a moment with continuing coverage of negotiations on the fiscal cliff, please stay with us. the boys use capital one venture miles for their annual football trip. that's double miles you can actually use. tragically, their buddy got sacked by blackouts. but it's our tradition! that's roughing the card holder. but with the capital one venture card you get double miles you can actually use. [ cheering ] any flight, anytime. the scoreboard doesn't lie. what's in your wallet? hut! i have me on my fantasy team. like gas station sushi. or super cheap car insurance. and then there are good decisions. like esurance. their coverage counselor helps you choose the right coverage for you at a great price. [ stomach growls ] esurance. now backed by alls
still question lines before we get to the finish line and avert the fiscal cliff. in two months, the voice president told democrats behind closed doors, there will be a donnybrook in vintage biden speak when we talk about the mandatory spending cuts that they delayed to the end of february. >> thank you so much. we'll be back in a moment with continuing coverage of negotiations on the fiscal cliff, please stay with us. the boys use capital one venture miles for their annual football trip....
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that we don't want to inflict on you, but would have to by the design of the fiscal cliff, that oh, by the way, we created a year and a half ago. they actually couldn't get the social security cuts through this time. but republicans have promised and obama will probably be happy to go along with it that in the next few months they're going to you know, take another crack at "entitlement reform." but i think that whether or not this deal ends up being a good one for -- for democrats, depends on whether or not the president holds firm in the commitment he made. that he will refuse to negotiate on the debt ceiling. he is saying forget it. i'm not even going to talk about it. i don't care what you want to give me to raise the debt ceiling, i don't care what you want about the debt ceiling, i'm not going to touch the debt ceiling. now what does that mean? does that mean he is going to pay the debts even if the republicans don't raise the debt ceiling. we don't know, but he has insisted, both in private and with his staff in his public statements and in private with others that this is a
that we don't want to inflict on you, but would have to by the design of the fiscal cliff, that oh, by the way, we created a year and a half ago. they actually couldn't get the social security cuts through this time. but republicans have promised and obama will probably be happy to go along with it that in the next few months they're going to you know, take another crack at "entitlement reform." but i think that whether or not this deal ends up being a good one for -- for democrats,...
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. >>> right off the top, breaking news from capitol hill, just two hours from the fiscal cliff deadline the white house has reached adeal with congressional republicans. which thanks for joining us tonight. i'm maureen umeh. the deal would delay harsh spending cut for two months, but it appears the house will not vote before tonight's midnight deadline. >> we'll continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending, but let's not let that hold up protecting americans from the tax hike that will take place. we can do this. we must do this. >> reporter: though it is down to the wire. >> it's december the 31st! january 1st is tomorrow, 2013, taxes go up. >> reporter: a frustrated senator john kuhn said the senate should have acted months ago to keep the economy from going off the fiscal cliff. >> i just find it really hard to sit and listen to people come up now and wring their hands and talk about gee whiz, you know, i really hope we can get something done here in the last day as we put two people together basically to resolve this. >> reporter: the two people were senate republican le
. >>> right off the top, breaking news from capitol hill, just two hours from the fiscal cliff deadline the white house has reached adeal with congressional republicans. which thanks for joining us tonight. i'm maureen umeh. the deal would delay harsh spending cut for two months, but it appears the house will not vote before tonight's midnight deadline. >> we'll continue to work on finding smarter ways to cut spending, but let's not let that hold up protecting americans from the...
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keep in mind that the threat of tax heights going up is only one part of this so-called fiscal cliff. what we also have facing us starting tomorrow or automatic spending cuts that are scheduled to go into effect. keep in mind that some of these spending cuts that congress has said will automatically go into effect have an impact on our defense department but that also have an impact on things like head start. there are some programs that are scheduled to be cut. we are using an ax instead of a scalpel. it may not always be the smartest cuts. that is a piece of business that still has to be taken care of. i want to make clear that any agreement we have to deal with these automatic spending cuts, those also have to be balanced. my principle has always been to do things in a balanced, responsible way and that means revenues as to be part of the equation in turning off the sequester as well as spending cuts. the same is true for any future deficit agreement. we will have to do more to reduce our debt and deficit. i am willing to do more but it will have to be balanced. we will have to do
keep in mind that the threat of tax heights going up is only one part of this so-called fiscal cliff. what we also have facing us starting tomorrow or automatic spending cuts that are scheduled to go into effect. keep in mind that some of these spending cuts that congress has said will automatically go into effect have an impact on our defense department but that also have an impact on things like head start. there are some programs that are scheduled to be cut. we are using an ax instead of a...
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it's not a good fiscal cliff deal if it give morse tax cuts to 2% and sets the stage for, in his words, quote, hostage-taking. he is voicing the concern that because the taxes only apply or go up on those making $400,000 or more and $450,000 if you're a couple, that essentially it's not hitting enough people. and he is voicing the concern that there might be deep cuts. so there is some pressure coming from the left for democrats to not necessarily accept the deal that is on the table. now, we saw president obama come out earlier today and talk about the fact that look, this isn't a perfect deal. this represents compromise on all sides. part of the reason you saw president obama come out today is not only to pressure republicans, but also to pressure democrats to get the deal done before this midnight deadline that is now so close and that is fast approaching. so there is some opposition that is being voiced from the left. could this impact the decision of some senate democrats? we'll have to wait and see, certainly. but, of course, when these deals come together, there are a lot of dis
it's not a good fiscal cliff deal if it give morse tax cuts to 2% and sets the stage for, in his words, quote, hostage-taking. he is voicing the concern that because the taxes only apply or go up on those making $400,000 or more and $450,000 if you're a couple, that essentially it's not hitting enough people. and he is voicing the concern that there might be deep cuts. so there is some pressure coming from the left for democrats to not necessarily accept the deal that is on the table. now, we...
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draws closer and closer to that fiscal cliff. the defense department is facing billions in budget cuts. how a furlough could affect civilian employees in the u.s. and around the world. oh, hey mike. what are you up to? oh, just diagramming this accident with my state farm pocket agent app. you can also get a quote and pay your premium with this thing. i thought state farm didn't have all those apps? where did you hear that? the internet. and you believed it? yeah. they can't put anything on the internet that isn't true. where did you hear that? [ both ] the internet. oh look. here comes my date. i met him on the internet. he's a french model. uh, bonjour. [ male announcer ] state farm. more mobile than ever. get to a better state. he loves risk. but whether he's climbing everest, scuba diving the great barrier reef with sharks, or jumping into the market, he goes with people he trusts, which is why he trades with a company that doesn't nickel and dime him with hidden fees. so he can worry about other things, like what the market
draws closer and closer to that fiscal cliff. the defense department is facing billions in budget cuts. how a furlough could affect civilian employees in the u.s. and around the world. oh, hey mike. what are you up to? oh, just diagramming this accident with my state farm pocket agent app. you can also get a quote and pay your premium with this thing. i thought state farm didn't have all those apps? where did you hear that? the internet. and you believed it? yeah. they can't put anything on the...
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but this sequester is, you know, it's a big part of the fiscal cliff. monetarily it's not quite half of it. it's worth $110 billion and those spending cuts go into effect tonight. it's unclear if they are going to solve that part of it. >> woodruff: but todd s there, on the tax side, has there been agreement there at least on the senate side. because as we just reported some democrats say they don't like what they see. >> well, they don't need everybody. keep in mind you-- what you need in the senate usually is 51 votes. we've gotten into this environment here where we assume that everything needs 60 votes. it doesn't have to be that way. you heard from senator harkin there he and a bunch of other senate lib rarblingts shelton white house al franken jay rockefeller, other huddled in harry reid's office earlier today. i was standing outside that room when they came out. they were tight-lipped. they were grim. they went into a side meeting all their own to try and decide what to do. they weren't talking when they came out. what you are looking for there i
but this sequester is, you know, it's a big part of the fiscal cliff. monetarily it's not quite half of it. it's worth $110 billion and those spending cuts go into effect tonight. it's unclear if they are going to solve that part of it. >> woodruff: but todd s there, on the tax side, has there been agreement there at least on the senate side. because as we just reported some democrats say they don't like what they see. >> well, they don't need everybody. keep in mind you-- what you...
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that are part of the fiscal cliff. mr. mccain: may i thank the senator from maryland, as always, for her usual courtesy and i think she had a very important message and i appreciate not only the words themselves but her eloquence and passion. mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that the senator from south carolina be included in a colloquy during my remarks. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. mccain: mr. president, i, like i believe all of us just finished watching the president's remarks at -- i guess it was the executive office building. and i'm not sure yet as i sort out my impressions of the president's remarks as to whether to be angry or to be saddened. i've been around this town for a number of years, and as is well known, i had an interest in the presidency more than academic and i've watched a lot of presidents, going back to president reagan from the standpoint of a member of congress. and i've watched these other crises as we go through them, whether it be the potential shutdown of the governme
that are part of the fiscal cliff. mr. mccain: may i thank the senator from maryland, as always, for her usual courtesy and i think she had a very important message and i appreciate not only the words themselves but her eloquence and passion. mr. president, i ask unanimous consent that the senator from south carolina be included in a colloquy during my remarks. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. mccain: mr. president, i, like i believe all of us just finished watching the president's...
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fiscal cliff. here's what both sides are considering in a potential deal right now. an increase in tax rates for families making over $450,000 a year. extending unemployment benefits. and an increase in the estate tax. the president seemed hopeful but cautious when he addressed the american people earlier today. >> today, it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's not done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that congress can get it done. but it's not done. >> let's get straight to our chief white house correspondent jessi jessica yellin. she's over at the white house with the very latest. the president seems pretty optimistic that it's within a few hours we could have a deal, right? >> reporter: wolf, the people i just spoke to here say they are no more or less optimistic than they were this morning. which is to say they are not cueing the confetti just yet. senator mitch mcconnell, the republican leader on the hill, is still t
fiscal cliff. here's what both sides are considering in a potential deal right now. an increase in tax rates for families making over $450,000 a year. extending unemployment benefits. and an increase in the estate tax. the president seemed hopeful but cautious when he addressed the american people earlier today. >> today, it appears that an agreement to prevent this new year's tax hike is within sight. but it's not done. there are still issues left to resolve. but we're hopeful that...
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one other thing from the president's speech, the fiscal cliff will end. now the super cliff in february and march. looks like a huge battle of the sequester. republicans want different spending cuts and debt ceiling on top of it. get ready for the super cliff? >> so you are saying today is just a band-aid. >> listen, the battle will be more fervent in the spring. it doesn't sound like they will delay it. that's an even bigger battle, i think. >> i think governor greg man u, some say he is partisan on the right, he had an op ad over the weekend. if we want to be a nation that gives people unlimited healthcare and social security no matter what you pay in, taxes have to go up on everybody. do you agree? >> answerly. tax absolutely. we can give reasonable benefits, controlled, smart spending with, do all those things and keep tax cuts at a reasonable rate. >> with the average single income household. let's say the man works, wife doesn't, or vice versa. it is $6 used versus every $1 paid in. 6-1. can clearly unsustainable. >> we need far more fundamental ref
one other thing from the president's speech, the fiscal cliff will end. now the super cliff in february and march. looks like a huge battle of the sequester. republicans want different spending cuts and debt ceiling on top of it. get ready for the super cliff? >> so you are saying today is just a band-aid. >> listen, the battle will be more fervent in the spring. it doesn't sound like they will delay it. that's an even bigger battle, i think. >> i think governor greg man u,...
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so too will the fiscal cliff. $600 billion worth of tax increases and spending cuts. it is supposed to be automatic. but now republicans are suggesting a delay, the president just spoke trying to add pressure to congress to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. listen. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain, whatever you want to call it, that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible way that doesn't just deal with the taxes, but deals with the spending in a balanced way, so that we can put all this behind us focusing on growing our economy. but with this congress, that was obviously a little too much to hope for at this time. >> let's turn now to chief white house correspondent jessica yellin. let's talk a little bit about the outlines of the deal, the fact that the president came out to make his case and try to push this thing over the finish line. what does the white house have to do to gain the backing it needs. >> reporter: well, what we heard from the presiden
so too will the fiscal cliff. $600 billion worth of tax increases and spending cuts. it is supposed to be automatic. but now republicans are suggesting a delay, the president just spoke trying to add pressure to congress to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. listen. >> my preference would have been to solve all these problems in the context of a larger agreement, a bigger deal, a grand bargain, whatever you want to call it, that solves our deficit problems in a balanced and responsible...
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fiscal cliff talks are stalling. tax hikes and spending cuts. president obama said to speak in about 30 minutes from now. shibani: stocks are holding their ground. waiting for some sort of news out of washington. the dow sitting at session highs. at least we are closing. ashley: it changes with every headline. the world ringing in the new year. new zealand, australia, japan, china, we will get a sneak preview of celebrations being planned as times square gets prepared for 1 million visitors. it is a complete nightmare. [ laughter ] ashley: time now for stocks now as we do every 15 minutes. we are up 51 points. not too bad on this last trading day of the year. >> that is right. the dow has been pretty flat. going back and forth between the red and green. the nasdaq is up 30. same goes for the s&p stock of about nine points. we are also watching a settlement between u.s. regulators and about a dozen banks. sources tell the "new york times" that 14 banks include tank of america, wells fargo and jpmorgan chase. we are taking a look at those stocks.
fiscal cliff talks are stalling. tax hikes and spending cuts. president obama said to speak in about 30 minutes from now. shibani: stocks are holding their ground. waiting for some sort of news out of washington. the dow sitting at session highs. at least we are closing. ashley: it changes with every headline. the world ringing in the new year. new zealand, australia, japan, china, we will get a sneak preview of celebrations being planned as times square gets prepared for 1 million visitors. it...
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in the fiscal cliff could slow economic growth by a half a percentage point and send unemployment up to 9.1% over the course of 2013. the nonpartisan tax policy center calculate that is the average middle class family would see its tax rates -- its tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less happy note, there are economists who are saying this whole fight over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his new offer with offers down at the white house. we saw the st
in the fiscal cliff could slow economic growth by a half a percentage point and send unemployment up to 9.1% over the course of 2013. the nonpartisan tax policy center calculate that is the average middle class family would see its tax rates -- its tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the...
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by thoughts on the fiscal cliff are, why don't we just let the bush tax cuts expired? host: on that point, where would you draw the line in terms of the middle class americans? the president said $250,000, but that threshold could now be $450,000. caller: i came from a pretty upper in the family. but i do not consider -- $60,000, $70,000 -- that is pushing at. $90,000? no, no. that is not middle-class. you are making more than triple what some of your average americans make in the year. host: ok. republican line. caller: thank you. i just want to respond to tom harkin's comments. the housing market is largely responsible for the mess we're in right now. they voted not to pay taxes on $100,000 worth of gains every two years and extended mortgages to people who never in the history of our country could have afforded a home, under the idea that everybody should be able to have a shot at the american dream. i really -- i am just upset. they hold out until the last day when they had all year to deal with these issues. now the passion and the i read attitudes of people are c
by thoughts on the fiscal cliff are, why don't we just let the bush tax cuts expired? host: on that point, where would you draw the line in terms of the middle class americans? the president said $250,000, but that threshold could now be $450,000. caller: i came from a pretty upper in the family. but i do not consider -- $60,000, $70,000 -- that is pushing at. $90,000? no, no. that is not middle-class. you are making more than triple what some of your average americans make in the year. host:...
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. >> americans aren't the only ones watching closely for signs of a fiscal cliff deal today. the world is watching, too. it's because the big tax hikes and spending cuts here could have a chilling effect on the global economy. we want to bring in richard quest from london. richard, we know that folks are watching this. perhaps not the minutia how we're following it in washington and the negotiations process from hour to hour and minute to minute it seems. certainly in the final stages of it this whether or not this is actually going to happen. why does it make such a big difference? >> reporter: it makes a huge difference because the rest of the globe, particularly say for example the european union and the euro zone is barely growing. it's stagnant and was in recession in '12. it could be in recession in '13. if you lop off any growth from the u.s. economy, that will have a ripple affect across the althouthe atlantic. you will feel the ripples go across the pacific to asia and japan and china and to all those countries and across the atlantic to europe. i was talking a few m
. >> americans aren't the only ones watching closely for signs of a fiscal cliff deal today. the world is watching, too. it's because the big tax hikes and spending cuts here could have a chilling effect on the global economy. we want to bring in richard quest from london. richard, we know that folks are watching this. perhaps not the minutia how we're following it in washington and the negotiations process from hour to hour and minute to minute it seems. certainly in the final stages of...
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cheryl: i cleverly brought you back to the fiscal cliff debate because i want to ask you about this. if you look at the expiration of the bush tax cuts, something else that would go way in 11 and a half hours, that's one-and-a-half percent of gdp. that is a big chunk of this nation's economy that goes away in spending power. i know you and i disagree, but we agree here. some of these tax cuts need to stay in place. >> without question, without question. there is certainly a healthy debate to be had about at what level you maintain the tax cuts. so close to seeing all those tax cuts go away. a completely ridiculous congress inflicted wound on the economy that is very difficult to square with reality. certainly i understand that retroactively they can do a lot to restore a lot of the damaged, but we are so close to the purposes -- press the does, it makes no sense. cheryl: last and final question. i know this is tough to answer, but we have had some really good things happen. the recovery, calling it a recovery, the fed that has been more than generous and throwing money into the syste
cheryl: i cleverly brought you back to the fiscal cliff debate because i want to ask you about this. if you look at the expiration of the bush tax cuts, something else that would go way in 11 and a half hours, that's one-and-a-half percent of gdp. that is a big chunk of this nation's economy that goes away in spending power. i know you and i disagree, but we agree here. some of these tax cuts need to stay in place. >> without question, without question. there is certainly a healthy debate...
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, to deal with the fiscal cliff. if you don't like the house's product bring it on the floor of the senate and let's change it. let's start being legislators instead of just a place where ideas go and die in the united states senate, it's embarrassing to me being the most deliberative body in the world and not be able to have a debate about how the fiscal cliff drama should end. we should have had the house bill on the floor months ago. harry reid blocks everything coming from the house, this place is completely dysfunctional and this is why you wait on new year's eve to financed out what is happening, because we don't vote in the senate any more. uma: it's a very troubling and disturbing situation indeed, senator graham. thank you so much for joining us. we are all watching and waiting to see what happens over the next few hours. >> there are a lot of votes in this body to avoid the fiscal cliff if we could just get the body working we would. but i want to end with this note. if there is going to be revenue increase
, to deal with the fiscal cliff. if you don't like the house's product bring it on the floor of the senate and let's change it. let's start being legislators instead of just a place where ideas go and die in the united states senate, it's embarrassing to me being the most deliberative body in the world and not be able to have a debate about how the fiscal cliff drama should end. we should have had the house bill on the floor months ago. harry reid blocks everything coming from the house, this...
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her& onpanother on the tax cut. >> congress goes back to work trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> how close are we to a deal here? >> we shouldn't be waiting for people to cut deals in back rooms. american people ought to be able to watch the discussion and the debate. >> reporter: a connecticut lawyer is getting heavy criticism because he wants to sue the state over the newtown shooting. >> hello. we didn't do enough. this never should have happened. >>> colts' head coach makes it back to the sidelines three months after being diagnosed with cancer. >> the minute you get the diagnosis, you know, it's like getting hit across the head with a baseball bat. >>> kim kardashian and kanye west are expecting their first child. >> a little shocked. a little surprised. >> if there's no agreement by cliff, economists predict america will go back into a >> we don't want a howard dean sc reamscre. am. >> bungee jumping. >> we might need it. i might then and i might now. >>> i'm norah o'donnell with anthony mason. ch arlichare anlie d gaand yle gaylare e aroff.e off. o'donnell with anthony mason.
her& onpanother on the tax cut. >> congress goes back to work trying to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> how close are we to a deal here? >> we shouldn't be waiting for people to cut deals in back rooms. american people ought to be able to watch the discussion and the debate. >> reporter: a connecticut lawyer is getting heavy criticism because he wants to sue the state over the newtown shooting. >> hello. we didn't do enough. this never should have happened....
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well, now we're less than 13 hours away from going over that fiscal cliff when taxes automatically go up and government spending cuts take effect. as ktvu's kyla campbell reports from our washington, d.c. newsroom, the sticking point is still who's gonna pay more taxes? kyle this. >> reporter: we just heard from senate majority leader harry reid. he said discussions don't this hour and the single most important goal remains to protect the middles can. hitch mock connell and vice president joe biden picked up negotiations again this northerning after talking yesterday -- morning after talk as yesterday. democrats want to raise taxes on householding making $450,000. republicans are hoeing out at $550,000. without a deal, income taxes will go up on all americans tomorrow. some lawmakers expect a short- term deal to keep that from happening but they are running out of that time to get it done. >> any time you are putting a deal together, it's always the details that will give you. you have to get the details done. there is a lot of backroom operation going on right now, making sure all of
well, now we're less than 13 hours away from going over that fiscal cliff when taxes automatically go up and government spending cuts take effect. as ktvu's kyla campbell reports from our washington, d.c. newsroom, the sticking point is still who's gonna pay more taxes? kyle this. >> reporter: we just heard from senate majority leader harry reid. he said discussions don't this hour and the single most important goal remains to protect the middles can. hitch mock connell and vice president...
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i implore our leadership in this house to bring a bold and balanced approach to solve our fiscal cliff crisis here today. with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentlewoman from california rise? without objection. ms. hahn: madam speaker, tonight in time's square, hundreds of thousands of people will be there at midnight to watch that ball drop. but here in congress we have also dropped the ball. we are in the final days of the 112th congress and no one expected us to be here on the house floor on new year's eve, but here we are racing towards that fiscal cliff, towards higher taxes on the middle class, on slashed investment for the american people, including nutrition for mothers and infants, education for our children, and our infrastructure. what part of the cliff sounds like a good plan? i know i'm not the only one who spent time with families that it will hurt. i know i'm not the only one who has visited the businesses worried that our country could have another recession. we should not be playing this game of c
i implore our leadership in this house to bring a bold and balanced approach to solve our fiscal cliff crisis here today. with that i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. for what purpose does the gentlewoman from california rise? without objection. ms. hahn: madam speaker, tonight in time's square, hundreds of thousands of people will be there at midnight to watch that ball drop. but here in congress we have also dropped the ball. we are in the final days of...
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now, he has the fiscal cliff. >> he never ran on cutting the deficit. he talks about it, but it has never been a central part of his plan. stuart: how long can we do this for? >> the government gets to kick this can down the road. stuart: please, can we go back to shanghai? i am lightly informed that there is something going on. yes. okay. thank you very much, indeed. the new year has arrived in shanghai. let's just watch it for a second, shall we, david? that is live. if you are an american and you live in shanghai, but you just died, you are in deep trouble because the new estate tax has just goneo
now, he has the fiscal cliff. >> he never ran on cutting the deficit. he talks about it, but it has never been a central part of his plan. stuart: how long can we do this for? >> the government gets to kick this can down the road. stuart: please, can we go back to shanghai? i am lightly informed that there is something going on. yes. okay. thank you very much, indeed. the new year has arrived in shanghai. let's just watch it for a second, shall we, david? that is live. if you are an...
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we are just hours away from falling off the so-called fiscal cliff. tax hikes for nearly every american. lots of different ones. spending cuts of totaling more than a trillion dollars. by all indications, nothing, we mean nothing has changed on capitol hill. senate majority leader harry reid saying significant distance remains between the two sides. good morning everyone, i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer here in "america's newsroom.". >> i'm heather childers in for martha maccallum the senate gavels in at 11:00 a.m. we'll see if there was some miracle overnight. gregg: i doubt that. yesterday, republican senate leader mitch mcconnell made an emergency call to the vice president joe biden in an evident to jump-start negotiations. heather: if no deal is haed out today, majority leader reid says he will call a vote on a separate white house plan that reflects's original proposal. gregg: chief correspondent mike emanuel kicks off the coverage. mike, where do the things stand in the fiscal cliff talks at this critical late-stage? >> reporter: gregg, th
we are just hours away from falling off the so-called fiscal cliff. tax hikes for nearly every american. lots of different ones. spending cuts of totaling more than a trillion dollars. by all indications, nothing, we mean nothing has changed on capitol hill. senate majority leader harry reid saying significant distance remains between the two sides. good morning everyone, i'm gregg jarrett in for bill hemmer here in "america's newsroom.". >> i'm heather childers in for martha...
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defense sector facing major cuts if we do go over the fiscal cliff. how that industry will be affected if we don't get a deal today, we'll talk about that after the break. stay with us. any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader streaming quotes. it's another reason more investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. >>> they say the biggest priority is making sure we deal with the debt in a serious way. the way they're behaving is their only priority is making sure that tax breaks for the wealthiest americans are protected. >> there's no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. the sticking point appears to be a willingness and interest, or frankly, the courage to close the deal. >> the deadline to get a deal done, steadily getting closer and closer. the defense industry wi
defense sector facing major cuts if we do go over the fiscal cliff. how that industry will be affected if we don't get a deal today, we'll talk about that after the break. stay with us. any way you want. fully customize it for your trading process -- from thought to trade, on every screen. and all in real time. which makes it just like having your own trading floor, right at your fingertips. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. try our easy-to-use scottrader...
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16 hours away, the country risked going over what he called a fiscal cliff. since the president's re-election, he and republicans have traded offers and counteroffers, finding little common ground on tax increases and cuts from entitlements. president obama and speaker boehner met one on one. nothing happened. the speaker offered plan "b," never got enough support within his own party. here we are all over again. do we have tom coburn? joining us now from capitol hill, republican senator from oklahoma, senator tom coburn. senator, thanks for being with us. >> you're welcome. >> so, why, first of all, does this deadline tonight matter? and i heard you make comments yesterday out on the streets of washington to a reporter that you think we're going to go over the cliff? >> i do. >> okay. >> i do. let me take issue with a couple of things you said. >> okay. >> number one is we haven't cut the first penny yet from the federal government, and it's important people know that. what happened in that agreement is $1 trillion in increased expenditures didn't happen. >>
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there's also a series of spending cuts that will also be triggered by the fiscal cliff. $1.2 trillion in sequestration will kick in beginning january 2nd. next year alone, $109 billion will be slashed. half from the defense budget and half from nondefense spending. the so-called doc fix would also go away, reducing medicare payments to doctors by 27%. and finally, unemployment benefits will run out for more than 2 million americans who have lost their jobs. benefits will only be available for up to 26 weeks, a drastic reduction from the 73 weeks available to some out-of-work americans. i want to go to sam stein, but first, dr. sachs, if we go over the cliff, it is the poor americans who will be hit the hardest, correct? >> well, there are parts of that where the poor will be hit the hardest. but if we make a deal right now of the kind that's being talked about, it's going to gut the federal budget for a decade to come. so we're on the brink either of these difficulties right now, which are real, or making terrible decisions that are going to lock us into a situation that we absolutely
there's also a series of spending cuts that will also be triggered by the fiscal cliff. $1.2 trillion in sequestration will kick in beginning january 2nd. next year alone, $109 billion will be slashed. half from the defense budget and half from nondefense spending. the so-called doc fix would also go away, reducing medicare payments to doctors by 27%. and finally, unemployment benefits will run out for more than 2 million americans who have lost their jobs. benefits will only be available for...
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"hours from the fiscal cliff, washington awaits deal." experts foresee a significant drag on the economy. negotiators keeping the bush-era tax cuts in place for all but the wealthiest americans. this is having a huge impact on what the markets want, which is some certainty. good morning, andy. caller: i was a volunteer rescue worker at the world trade center. i have two cancers. these guys want to mess with social security. there was a guy on yesterday. he was willing to pay a little more. he will still have over $200,000 left. he'll have maybe $20,000 last. it is ridiculous. we of the strong people. we are the ones that survive. they call us the little people. we are the strong people. host: it is 7:35 eastern time. the house will gavel and at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. we will have live coverage. the senate is coming in at 11:00 a.m. more from the senate floor yesterday. [video clip] >> i'm sure if president does not want a climate like this happen. i do not want on my watch for this to be the last thing that happens on my watch. i do not
"hours from the fiscal cliff, washington awaits deal." experts foresee a significant drag on the economy. negotiators keeping the bush-era tax cuts in place for all but the wealthiest americans. this is having a huge impact on what the markets want, which is some certainty. good morning, andy. caller: i was a volunteer rescue worker at the world trade center. i have two cancers. these guys want to mess with social security. there was a guy on yesterday. he was willing to pay a little...
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we have hours go before the fiscal cliff deadline when dramatic increases and spending cuts kick in. congressional leaders and vice president biden are struggling to avoid the fiscal cliff. those negotiations continue this morning. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. nancy, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, norah. they have appeared to move closer to one another. democrats have come way up from the president's longstanding position that the bush tax cuts should expire for all household income over $250,000 a year. republicans have come way down from speaker boehner's insistence that that limit be set at a million dollars. and so if there's a deal today, and that's a big "if," you can expect it would be set around $400,000, $500,000, $600,000 a year, so certainly 90, 95% of americans would be keeping their tax cut. one of the biggest sticking points for the republicans right now appears that this deal doesn't include significant spending cuts. in fact, it contain as lot of new spending and so that is one major issue that's going to have to be ironed out. and if they don't g
we have hours go before the fiscal cliff deadline when dramatic increases and spending cuts kick in. congressional leaders and vice president biden are struggling to avoid the fiscal cliff. those negotiations continue this morning. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. nancy, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, norah. they have appeared to move closer to one another. democrats have come way up from the president's longstanding position that the bush tax cuts should expire for all...
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that are part of this so-called fiscal cliff. republicans want to see more deficit reduction. democrats say that could come later, but this would be a smaller plan. there are really some serious differences and not a lot of time left. congress has created its own deadline to this so-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some constructive movement but then there's this chasm we keep hearing about. is there a chance for a deal? >> i think -- i want to say yes, there's a chance for a deal! they're not that far apart. it really depends on the political motivations of the people at the negotiating table. you think about joe biden and mitch mcconnell, mitch mcconnell is totally looking at this through a political lens, what is in the best interest of republicans in his view? from what i understand in his view he thinks what's in the best interest of the republican party is g
that are part of this so-called fiscal cliff. republicans want to see more deficit reduction. democrats say that could come later, but this would be a smaller plan. there are really some serious differences and not a lot of time left. congress has created its own deadline to this so-called fiscal cliff and now has to live by it over the next several hours to see if something can get done. erica? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you. chuck todd is nbc's political director. kelly mentioned some...
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is just hours away from going over that fiscal cliff. without a deal before midnight, americans will be bringing in this new year with sweeping tax hikes and swing -- a tactic -- and cuts. >> >> t . >> i hope that they can work together and realize that this is affecting everyone. >> both chambers will reconvene this morning at whichthat they k together and realize that this is affecting everyone. >> both chambers will reconvene this morning at which point, there are just 12 hours left until this deadline. >> whatboth chambers will recone this morning at which point, there are just 12 hours left until this deadline. >> what are lawmakers working on today? >> we understand that senator harry reid, the majority leader, will what are lawmakers workingn today? >> we understand that senator harry reid, the majority leader, will reintroduce the pre fiscal cliff, maryland would be hit hard with hundreds of millions of dollars and tens of thousands of jobs lost. >> if america falls off that fiscal cliff, maryland would be hit hard with hundreds
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but avoiding the fiscal cliff is really not the goal here. cutting the deficit is. this is a case of gigantic political friendly fire in my view. we're targeting the wrong enemy. we should be targeting the deficit. >> i've read, dan, more carefully and it's extremely insightful. and one of the things that i take from you is that you're a markets guy who thinks about macro, and not just u.s. macro, but global macro. what i don't get about what you're saying now -- one thing i get very much about what you're saying now is a small deal doesn't solve anything except the immediate cliff problem and that's not the only problem we have. it's actually relatively minor, i agree with you. but if we engage in $500 billion fiscal contraction next year i think we're going to have a recession. as a guy who pays attention to macro, how does that help anybody? >> well, look, i actually -- one of the reasons i said, and it was a provocation of saying, the fiscal cliff, after the election, my view of where this was going was exactly where we are this morning. which is probably why yo
but avoiding the fiscal cliff is really not the goal here. cutting the deficit is. this is a case of gigantic political friendly fire in my view. we're targeting the wrong enemy. we should be targeting the deficit. >> i've read, dan, more carefully and it's extremely insightful. and one of the things that i take from you is that you're a markets guy who thinks about macro, and not just u.s. macro, but global macro. what i don't get about what you're saying now -- one thing i get very much...
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he said he feels like we -- let's do a swan dive over the fiscal cliff. >> clayton: he wants the fiscal cliff, boling does. i don't know that that would be a smart move, given the sequestration and all of the defense cuts that we're about with to face if we go over that, that means a massive, massive cut to our military. >> juliet: his thing is, look, we got to start cutting this deficit down. we just got to start now. he said, i stand to lose a lot of money in this, but it's got to happen now. >> dave: he also said republicans should lead on immigration, which i thought was interesting. that also made my eyes go up. >> clayton: he said they're going to continue to lose election after election if they continue to do what they did as it relates to immigration reform. the senate this morning, look at the live look, capitol hill and the white house. the senate reconvenes at 11:00 a.m. this morning. the house is getting together around 9:00 a.m. this morning. again, wendell goler reporting they've been hashing out deals throughout the night. >> dave: if you want good information as it happe
he said he feels like we -- let's do a swan dive over the fiscal cliff. >> clayton: he wants the fiscal cliff, boling does. i don't know that that would be a smart move, given the sequestration and all of the defense cuts that we're about with to face if we go over that, that means a massive, massive cut to our military. >> juliet: his thing is, look, we got to start cutting this deficit down. we just got to start now. he said, i stand to lose a lot of money in this, but it's got to...
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cliff deal. no deal will mean spending cuts and tax increases for millions of americans with fears that it could trigger another recession. ed henry has latest. >> happy new year. >> the house and senate back to work for a rare sunday session trying to figure out the fiscal cliff negotiations. a lot of talk, very few solutions so far. >> our membership is frustrated as the american people we're sworn to serve. >> none. votes that we'll be casting today have anything to do with these deadlines that we face in slightly more than 24 hours. we're here. we're ready. >> reporter: president obama sitting down for his first sunday morning talk show interview in over three years told nbc it is time to lawmakers to nail down a deal o. >> we don't yet see an agreement and now the pressure is on congress to produce. >> reporter: republicans and democrats going back and forth behind closed doors working through night trying to avoid some of the most painful tax hikes and spending cuts in our nation's history.
cliff deal. no deal will mean spending cuts and tax increases for millions of americans with fears that it could trigger another recession. ed henry has latest. >> happy new year. >> the house and senate back to work for a rare sunday session trying to figure out the fiscal cliff negotiations. a lot of talk, very few solutions so far. >> our membership is frustrated as the american people we're sworn to serve. >> none. votes that we'll be casting today have anything to...
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still no deal on the fiscal cliff. are the democrats and republicans too far apart at this point to reach a deal before midnight? i hope not. >> is the cliff armageddon for the defense department. what these defense cuts would mean for national security. >>> a health scare for hillary clinton. what doctors say happened and an update on her condition. >> i'm ali velshi. >> and i'm christine romans. >> and i'm dr. sanjay gupta. john and zoraida are both off. >>> millions of americans will countdown to a fiscal cliff. a development that could send the nation back to recession. yesterday, the two parties turned to their respective closers, vice president joe biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell to get a back door deal done. the republican is not giving up. >> i'm interested in getting a result here. willing to work with whoever can help. there is no single issue that remains an impossible sticking point. >> all right according to the president, there has always been and still is one big sticking point. raising
still no deal on the fiscal cliff. are the democrats and republicans too far apart at this point to reach a deal before midnight? i hope not. >> is the cliff armageddon for the defense department. what these defense cuts would mean for national security. >>> a health scare for hillary clinton. what doctors say happened and an update on her condition. >> i'm ali velshi. >> and i'm christine romans. >> and i'm dr. sanjay gupta. john and zoraida are both off....
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cliff is just a minor blip with you in the long run they actually won a large chunk of what they've been after? >> we're going to have to see what is the impact in the the days ahead. can the republicans somehow turn that around? they certainly, inside the white house believe just the opposite because they believe that john boehner was sort of out maneuvered here, he had been pressing the president, pressing the president for some of his issues and what boehner may have forgotten is at the end of the day if there's no action by the congress, all of the bush tax rates are expiring, so the president is going to get what he's wanted in this debate all along, which is that taxes are going up on the rich and-- >> the president's outmaneuvered the republicans from the very beginning on this. >> ed doesn't have to answer that question. >> and kimberly, we're going to give you the last question, before we go to mike emanuel. >> i have a civilized question for mr. henry. >> and civilized-- >> my goodness, bob. >> it sounds worse than the negotiations on the hill. >> it's worse, thank goodnes
cliff is just a minor blip with you in the long run they actually won a large chunk of what they've been after? >> we're going to have to see what is the impact in the the days ahead. can the republicans somehow turn that around? they certainly, inside the white house believe just the opposite because they believe that john boehner was sort of out maneuvered here, he had been pressing the president, pressing the president for some of his issues and what boehner may have forgotten is at...
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and i think that the sh we're dealing with right now in the fiscal cliff is a prime example of it. what i'm arguing for are maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal, left wing agenda. it used to be considered a mainstream agenda. and it's something we can accomplish today if we simply allow for a vote in the senate and in the house to get it done. the fact that it's not happening is ancation of, you know, how far certain factions inside the republican party have gone where they can't even accept what used to be centrist mainstream positions on these issues. i'm an optimist. we try every other option before we finally do the right thing. after everything else is exhausted, we eventually do the right thing. and i think that's true for congress, as well. and i think it's important for americans to remember politics have always been messy. people have been asking me a lot about the film "lincoln" and -- >> is this your lincoln moment? >> well, no. look, i never compare myself to lincoln and, b, the magnitude of the issues are qui
and i think that the sh we're dealing with right now in the fiscal cliff is a prime example of it. what i'm arguing for are maintaining tax cuts for 98% of americans. i don't think anybody would consider that some liberal, left wing agenda. it used to be considered a mainstream agenda. and it's something we can accomplish today if we simply allow for a vote in the senate and in the house to get it done. the fact that it's not happening is ancation of, you know, how far certain factions inside...